[Wombat1940]

I've never found the TrackIR4.0 manual the most friendly. But that's probably me not the manual's fault. I'm never quite sure whether I'm running with the TAW profile of some other profile (EG: Default profile). There's not a box to drop the appropriate profile into. Its almost like the reverse: the sim. will pick its own profile. Yes I probable should update to version 5, but for the moment can anybody advise me on the best method to select the TAW TrackIR4.0 profile for TAW2.02?

[Home Fries]

Wombat1940, on Nov 3 2009, 02:11 AM, said:

I've never found the TrackIR4.0 manual the most friendly. But that's probably me not the manual's fault. I'm never quite sure whether I'm running with the TAW profile of some other profile (EG: Default profile). There's not a box to drop the appropriate profile into. Its almost like the reverse: the sim. will pick its own profile. Yes I probable should update to version 5, but for the moment can anybody advise me on the best method to select the TAW TrackIR4.0 profile for TAW2.02?

Wombat,

There is no actual default TrackIR profile for TAW. What I recommend is find a 2DOF profile you use for other combat sims (i.e. Falcon 4, IL-2) and copy it to something like TAW. Then assign HOME as the centering key.

Then all you need to do is go to the list of games, and IIRC next to each game will be the profile associated with it. Just assign your new TAW profile to Total Air War and you should be good to go.

BTW, the TrackIR5 software is very nice. Definitely worth installing if you have at least TrackIR4 hardware.

[Wombat1940]

Home Fries, on Nov 3 2009, 06:36 PM, said:

Wombat,

There is no actual default TrackIR profile for TAW. I thought that was what was listed in the left hand column so why don't we use it? What I recommend is find a 2DOF profile you use for other combat sims (i.e. Falcon 4, IL-2) and copy it to something like TAW. Sorry but don't know quite what this means. Where do I find these other profiles and what is copying it to something like TAW? Sorry, the whole configuration and workings of profile generation and loading just confuses me. Then assign HOME as the centering key. Why not use F12 as is used in the display screen? Er ..................... oh ........................ F12 is used for something else in the sim ....................... as is F7 and F9 ........ah, me thinks have to program different keys
Then all you need to do is go to the list of games, and IIRC next to each game will be the profile associated with it. Sorry get lost here ........ Just assign your new TAW profile to Total Air War and you should be good to go. ....likewise .....

BTW, the TrackIR5 software is very nice. Have had it installed but doen't detect any device and CTD when press F9 (pause key). Definitely worth installing if you have at least TrackIR4 hardware.

Sorry ..... but just call me dumb .....................

[Home Fries]

Wombat1940, on Nov 3 2009, 08:29 AM, said:

Sorry ..... but just call me dumb .....................

Dumb!

There, I said it. It's over with.

But TrackIR is not intuitive by itself; it takes a lot of tweaking to get things just the way you like them.

What I meant about the 2DOF profile is that if you have a standard profile you use for your other TrackIR games, go ahead and use that. 2DOF stands for Two Degrees of Freedom, which means that you can just pan the X and Y axes without leaning in or looking at something sideways. TAW, and Falcon 4 Allied Force both support 2DOF. 6DOF is the other option, and that means that you can move your entire head to look around.

Here is an example of 6DOF:


TAW doesn't support 6DOF. I just showed you that so you would understand the difference.

So what I'm getting back to is that if there's a profile you like for any of your flight sims, go ahead and use that profile by inserting it next to the "Total Air War" slot. If you are using the default profile, this is fine too.

What I recommended is copying that profile so all the movement curves (i.e. customization) are just the way you like them, then just changing the center to HOME for the reason you figured out. The next thing you can do is go into your new custom TAW profile and disable all axes except for X and Y (pitch and yaw), since TAW can't use them anyway. It will just make tracking smoother in the axes TAW can use.

Bummer about the TrackIR 5 software. I would definitely check out the naturalpoint support site for details on your crash. v5 of the software is easier to program and test, so getting that working would be great.

[Wombat1940]

Home Fries, on Nov 4 2009, 04:03 AM, said:

Dumb!

There, I said it. It's over with.

But TrackIR is not intuitive by itself [agree] it takes a lot of tweaking to get things just the way you like them.;

What I meant about the 2DOF profile is that if you have a standard profile you use for your other TrackIR games, go ahead and use that [if I do where is it? ..... don't know what profile TrackIR is using ....... really don't understand how it, or any profile is selected and loaded ......] . 2DOF stands for Two Degrees of Freedom [roger] , which means that you can just pan the X and Y axes without leaning in or looking at something sideways [roger]. TAW, and Falcon 4 Allied Force both support 2DOF [roger] . 6DOF is the other option, and that means that you can move your entire head to look around [roger]

Here is an example of 6DOF: edited out

So what I'm getting back to is that if there's a profile you like for any of your flight sims [? ..... assume I pick one from the profile folder?] go ahead and use that profile by inserting it next to the "Total Air War" slot [aaah ...... this bit really troubles me .... "....insert it next to the TAW slot ......." . If you are using the default profile, this is fine too [Now I'm really lost ...... ] .

What I recommended is copying that profile so all the movement curves (i.e. customization) are just the way you like them, then just changing the center to HOME for the reason you figured out [roger .... got that] . The next thing you can do is go into your new custom TAW profile and disable all axes except for X and Y (pitch and yaw), since TAW can't use them anyway [so it looses its 6DOF ...... which it doesn't have ..... if you see what I mean] . It will just make tracking smoother in the axes TAW can use [Yes, roger, I get the justification] .

Bummer about the TrackIR 5 software. I would definitely check out the naturalpoint support site for details on your crash. v5 of the software is easier to program and test, so getting that working would be great. [Will do if I ever understand TrackIR 4 software ...... ]

This is what others reading this post must be doing ..... How can he be so d***b!
So be it ........ put it down to my age .......

[Wombat1940]

Wombat1940, on Nov 4 2009, 11:20 AM, said:

This is what others reading this post must be doing ..... How can he be so d***b!
So be it ........ put it down to my age .......

STOP! RETURN TO BASE! DISENGAGE! .......... I've just found some other windows with edit facilities ........ maybe I can do more than I thought ....... will proceed with caution ......... WINGMAN, Guard my Six! .........

[Wombat1940]

Try again ..........

Home Fries, on Nov 4 2009, 04:03 AM, said:

But TrackIR is not intuitive by itself; it takes a lot of tweaking to get things just the way you like them. [roger]
What I meant about the 2DOF profile is that if you have a standard profile you use for your other TrackIR games, go ahead and use that. 2DOF stands for Two Degrees of Freedom, which means that you can just pan the X and Y axes without leaning in or looking at something sideways. TAW, and Falcon 4 Allied Force both support 2DOF. 6DOF is the other option, and that means that you can move your entire head to look around. [roger]

TAW doesn't support 6DOF. [roger]

So what I'm getting back to is that if there's a profile you like for any of your flight sims, go ahead and use that profile by inserting it next to the "Total Air War" slot. If you are using the default profile, this is fine too. [roger]

What I recommended is copying that profile so all the movement curves (i.e. customization) are just the way you like them, then just changing the center to HOME [or HOME for "pause", END for "centre" and "~" for precision"] to for the reason you figured out. The next thing you can do is go into your new custom TAW profile and disable all axes except for X and Y (pitch and yaw), since TAW can't use them anyway. [Didn't have to as using copy of Default profile as my original template .... only has 2DOF]. It will just make tracking smoother in the axes TAW can use. [Yes, will pick another Profile as my original template next time .... something with 6DOF]

Bummer about the TrackIR 5 software. I would definitely check out the naturalpoint support site for details on your crash. v5 of the software is easier to program and test, so getting that working would be great. [Next ....].

Thanks HF. Its a "piece of p***" Just that some of us are a little slow on the uptake.

[Home Fries]

Wombat1940, on Nov 3 2009, 08:18 PM, said:

[or HOME for "pause", END for "centre" and "~" for precision"

You don't want to use ~ because that key is for thrust vectoring. Come to think of it, you really don't need precision either because a) it is 2DOF, and since you can't click anywhere in the virtual cockpit, precision doesn't do you much good anyway.

If you're having trouble focusing on center, then instead of using precision, try to adjust your profile to make it less sensitive near the centerline and more sensitive as you look further to either side. Up/down doesn't need to be as sensitive.

[Wombat1940]

Home Fries, on Nov 4 2009, 02:16 PM, said:

You don't want to use ~ because that key is for thrust vectoring. Come to think of it, you really don't need precision either because a) it is 2DOF, and since you can't click anywhere in the virtual cockpit, precision doesn't do you much good anyway.

If you're having trouble focusing on center, then instead of using precision, try to adjust your profile to make it less sensitive near the centerline and more sensitive as you look further to either side. Up/down doesn't need to be as sensitive.

Yes, thanks. Didn't have TAW keycard with me and thought ~ was unwhatever. As far as precision goes it seems to have two default setting (as a keystroke): mild and agressive. So will configure precision (the profile) to suit my preferences and then give precision in game selection the flick.

Thanks again, its all so much clearer now.

Wombat, out