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Posted 26 July 2007 - 01:18 PM

I see in todays local (San Diego) paper that the UK plans to build 2 new CV's over the next decade which they state wil be nearly 3 times the size of anything they now have. They'll be named the HMS Queen Elizabeth and the HMS Prince of Whales and weigh 65k tons, about the same as the JFK, I believe. They're slated to enter service in 2014 and 2016. No mention of the proposed air wings.

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Posted 26 July 2007 - 03:08 PM

View PostBuddha, on Jul 26 2007, 11:18 AM, said:

I see in todays local (San Diego) paper that the UK plans to build 2 new CV's over the next decade which they state wil be nearly 3 times the size of anything they now have. They'll be named the HMS Queen Elizabeth and the HMS Prince of Whales and weigh 65k tons, about the same as the JFK, I believe. They're slated to enter service in 2014 and 2016. No mention of the proposed air wings.

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Oh, come on, Buddha, Charlie hasn't put on that much weight!
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Posted 26 July 2007 - 06:07 PM

Heh ... I really hope you (and especially the RN!) meant "Prince of WALES"! :)
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Posted 28 July 2007 - 10:38 AM

I rather doubt they'll displace the same as JFK: 82,000 tons

http://www.fas.org/m.../ship/cv-67.htm

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Posted 28 July 2007 - 05:48 PM

View PostJClark, on Jul 28 2007, 08:38 AM, said:

I rather doubt they'll displace the same as JFK: 82,000 tons

http://www.fas.org/m.../ship/cv-67.htm

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I see that site lists "Full Load" tonnage, whatever that is. I was looking at the Harpoon DB, which lists 64700 tons.

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Posted 29 July 2007 - 06:41 PM

I'll see you the Harpoon DB, and raise you stats from the Chief Engineer and Supervisor of Shipbuilding. JFK is a supercarrier.

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Posted 29 July 2007 - 07:48 PM

View PostJClark, on Jul 29 2007, 04:41 PM, said:

I'll see you the Harpoon DB, and raise you stats from the Chief Engineer and Supervisor of Shipbuilding. JFK is a supercarrier.

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I'm not doubting you, Boats, just explaining. To be honest, I've heard of displacement tonnage, gross tonnage, deadweight tonnage, etc for years without really knowing what the differences between them are. Full load tonnage is a new one for me, though.

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Posted 30 July 2007 - 10:04 AM

I'll believe those new flat-tops when I see them in Portsmouth (UK) harbour. Mr McBrown (unelected Prime Minister) will call a snap election while his ratings are high and if he wins there will be another spending review and what will go? You guessed it, the carriers, Trident upgrade and the armed forces generally :rofl: A very bitter retired member of the Fleet air Arm.
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